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November 5, 2022
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Watch our AMD Ryzen 5 7600X CPU review:
Watch our review of the Ryzen 9 7900X:
Here's the 7950X at 6.45GHz:
112Famine
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmIf you had a 7950x & a RTX 4090 what would the watt consumption be under idle & full load? Lets see someone try & build a itx version of this, with dual loop … I'd guess the Lian Li D10 "Mini" cases would be great, can always take out the hard drive cage for room for a second power supply. And could install 3 rads, two 360s & one 240, & extend the feet & mount one of the 360s rads on the bottom & keep the pretty fans on the inside bottom. And use clear plastic sheets cut & shaped (tunnels, caves, etc.) to control the fans air flow intake & exhaust.
112Famine
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmGuessing if you were to open loop cool this CPU & GPU, you'd be best off with dual loops. Maybe adding a second case just for rads & fans, & use quick connect between the two cases. Maybe a radiator from a car with a DC powered barrel blower fan, or two (the kind they use in new construction for things like to get plaster or paint to dry faster. And put the second case, or your car radiator custom box with blower barrel fans in another room, with hoses running thru a wall so you will not need to scream to be heard. Hell you could use this CPU as a instant hot water replacement water tank … LOL take a shower in mid winter by just running cold tap water thru your loop. 🤣… sheeze what will my power bill be?😭
112Famine
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmI want to see how the AMD 7000X3D family bench!
Anyone hear any news on their release?
szeredai akos
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmYou guys don't do downclocking.
I run both my cpu and gpu downclocked most of the time. Roughly 75 to 80% of actual stock performance. There are only a couple of games and workloads where I actually let my rig to shake off the dust. I would really like efficiency graphs with that in mind.
(forgive my heresy)
Ihor Menshykov
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmIt would’ve been great if you guys made a comparison of 7950x at a more sane wattage, by reducing cooling performance. Few folks are actually gonna be running it at 250w.
shentharo
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmPfft…. with a cooler it doesn't run at that at all. . . Who is going to drop 1+k on a Mobo and 1+k on a CPU and cheap out on the cooling. . . .
Jack S
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmSkip cycle
Hi-Tec Potato
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmWho needs speed when one got heat
Claus Bohm
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmPlease change the mindset for Blender benchmarks, rendering is done by GPU, use some kind of simulation tests like fire, smoke or viewport animation like character Mocap motions etc… They are what this chip will be used for since anyone doing rendering will use the 3090/4090 cuda/optix power. JMHO!
JAGO
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmWhat's the "normal" idle temps for the 7950x? I seem to sit around 40-45C, soon as I start to do anything (web, youtube, etc.) I am around 55-65C. Haven't gamed yet since I just finished the build, almost nervous too.. LOL
chnapo1
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmI would like to see the 7950X tested with some non exotic cooler that will manage to cool it bellow 95 degrees no matter how the CPU tries to heat up. Like, some double 360mm custom loop with D5. Just to see how far it can push itself if it isn't thermally throttled.
DJ Lifted AndreaS
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmIt's amazing how efficient the Ryzen 9 5900X and 5950X still are, I feel like the 5000 series is going to be highest point if efficiency per watt for AMD.
pdxbmwfan
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pm#amdSHILL
Peter
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmStability issues.
Every AMD generation has stability issues. I haven't used AMD since the 90's for that very reason.
With intel I shut down when I update drivers. System runs for weeks and weeks without any issues.
neoxide h
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmwonder how the 3d cache versions are going to cope with the heat as I thought that was a big deal with the 5800x3d and one of the reasons why you couldn't overclock unless they drop the clocks and volts a bit as that seems to make a huge difference in temps this gen, will have to be highly binned chips to make a big enough difference.
Cesar Garcia
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmDoes anybody know the name/model of this cooler?
Quinton Oglebsy
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmHow well would this CPU play with a Dark Rock Pro 4?
Sicarius Dracus
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmMy Ryzen 9 has killed two EVGA power supplies: a 1200, and a 1600 within days. I'm at a loss as to how to not have my supplies die so quickly.
David Craig
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmThanks for the review and the detail!
I could find a few CPU bottlenecked games. Most of the games I play are cpu bound. Simulation games. You did mention Warhammer, that makes sense it's gpu bound, I don't play it often. It is interesting choosing games to bench in this much detail. They need to be fully released to not have the results swing a lot in the future, want games that can test different aspects such as more cores, cache, clockspeed, etc. Sure it's great to find a game that everyone loves playing but is completely cpu bound, I don't know if everyone loves playing these, your segway at 24:00 would work leading into these sim games. The two biggest I know of: X4 and Dwarf Fortress.
X4 is created by a company that has made sort of the same game multiple times for multiple decades and consistently have similar issues with their titles, usually their games can't handle a battle involving hundreds of ships, but two generations later the hardware catches up. X4 however is a bit different, no player with a 50-100 hour save has an average frame rate over 30fps. Only the 5800X3D players top the fps charts, Egosoft's forums held a lengthy survey of players framerates and their cpu. Also when you land on a station it may seem gpu bottlenecked, it's not. Devs confirmed one major issue is 3D collision detection and that makes sense when you have massive ship battles, but the other aspect is the simulation part of the game they stated that can't be optimized to me that says the game is waiting on hardware advancements like their prior titles. X4 always has one thread at 100%
Dwarf Fortress most have heard of. This is for the non-steam version. Late game when multiple enemies raid the fort, it's said the pathfinding is so complex pathing hundreds of dwarves and goblins, that tricks like using 1-tile wide hallways are suggested. Also during worldgen, that's another benchmark. Also Bay9 made a lot of improvements to the steam-version soon to be released. The game often has one thread at 100%
Stardock Entertainment. The engine they use in their games seems to be extremely well balanced across all cpu threads. These two in particular: Star Swarm Stress Test, Ashes of the Singularity, are two I tested that to be true. It would be interesting to see some game using that engine and how it compared using this silicon or TR.
Sean Price
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmwhile everyone is crying about efficiency, i'm over here praising AMD for finally taking off the green tinted handcuffs they have put on themselves to please the tree huggers. if this comment triggers you, understand i don't care and i probably philosophically dislike you and disagree with you. so please, a reply is useless.
Petr Kisselev
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmOne test/measure I feel you've missed is total power draw/total power consumed during the code compile test. Sure the 5950X consumes less power than the 7950X over the same amount of time, but that sort of assumes an hypothetically infinite task. I think it would be interesting to see the numbers for a finite task.
Chris Rosenkreuz
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmthank you for your work
Evangeliman
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmCpu test in death stranding? Isn't that game insanely cpu bound?
GrayTrooper
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmI recently bought the Ryzen 9 7950x (along with all of the necessary components) to build a new PC.
Going from a AMD FX-8370 system to this monster of a heater is quite the jump. I completely skipped a generation.
While powerful, I may just have to restrict it's power consumption if I wish to have to a reasonable power bill.
jaeguerra909
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmHey Steve. Really trying to find an answer but are the new 7000 series or x670 boards able to run 4 sticks of ram? I see every one is only using 2 sticks. I have ocd wnd I hate seeing 2 slots not filled 🤣
Johnny Direct
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmDUDE! YOU need to steer well clear of trying to be Witty or humorous. ( Rainbow six frames). I've cringed numerous times at your previous attempts at humor, but I feel embarrassed for you every time you try!
Will S
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmAre we now at the point where you need to have refrigeration based coolers in pc's?
Also, this makes me happy with my purchase of the 5800x3d.
Theo
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmWell what the… I use a Noctua dual fan cooler that I pulled off my 5950xt and under load stays at 5.7+ghz and temps max out around 70c. Testing was done in 3d Mark Time Spy Extreme and Cinebench. I'd be happy to post screenshots. Fans only hit mid speed.
After watching this when I get home I'm running the tests again as that doesn't seem right.
Edit: My bad, high temp was 83.75c, still that's pretty good.
Mohamed Banoon
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmSo basically, undervolting the CPU will overclock it?
The Shah of Iran
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmIs it even possible to do SFF builds anymore?
Damian Lewandowski
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmok that is on havy load what If you just start windows or Web browser and it's hit 80c??
that normal? on 240 liquid cooler??
Carlos Duarte
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmis this cpu die soldered to its ihs?
prozac1127
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmLol. It's an pre overclocked chip.
ZZstaff
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmThank you
S1lentSt0rm
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmCurious to see Factorio in this, since it's not really taxing any GPU all that hard, but seems to rely on single core performance and cache heavily.
Jefrey Jefrey
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pmi say fuk amd and their 1000 kilowatt heating devises. together with intel and nividia and their scams.
KillahMate
November 5, 2022 - 9:50 pm20:41 With a ~100fps 0.1% low for the 5800X3D vs 50-65 0.1% for the other two CPUs I think it could hardly be called "an insignificant margin" – you can play the game and the spikes don't hurt the experience that much, but that's not the same as 'insignificant'.
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